BBG 500 cali special

[JB in Bama]

Has anyone seen one for sale in the last year?
I would like to be sure this one for sale is "real"
http://www.oldride.com/

Any ideas? Suggestions?

Thanks

[Big Bad AMX]

The only sure way to authenticate a 500 Special is with the original dealership paperwork. The car you're looking at appears to have the options the cars were known to have. For more info go to:
http://amx-perience.com/1969500Special.htm
I know of two authentic 500 Specials that have sold in the last year. One for $23,500 the other, an absolute premimum car, for $41,000+.
Is this car worth the asking price? Without a doubt it's a beautiful car. Only an onsite inspection will tell. There are some things on this car that I can see are not original. That doesn't mean the owner doesn't have the original parts to put back on the car. The biggest I can see (from pictures) to revert back to original is the incorrect engine color. Depending on your skills it may not be a big deal to pull the engine for a repaint. From the photos and asking price I'd say it's certainly worth a closer look.

[JB in Bama]

Thanks for the info!
You guys are obviously the authority on these cars!

Great Site :)

[dpc502]

Hi,
I have seen this car in person. Quite a few non original parts, But a very nice AMX. In my opinion this is a real 500 Special. It has the proper door tag with correct rivets. Does not look like it has ever been removed. It priviously was in N.J.
[ Sold on e-bay for $19.900.00 1/5/04.]

dpc502
P.S. I have a BBG 500 Special @ a BBG 390/4sp. so though not an expert I do know these cars fairly well.

[Big Bad AMX]

Just curious - what's the dash number on your 500? Mine's 14946.
Your 500 is the 2nd with a four-speed I have heard about. I have seen the other. It is in the Denver, CO area.
The one for $23,500 sold earlier this year and is in the north east. It is not the car in this ad however. There's a couple of them in Europe too.

[dpc502]

Hi,

'69 BBG 500 Special auto. dash#13482
'69 BBG 390 4sp. dash#14222
'70 BBB 390 4sp. dash#21736

[Big Bad AMX]

Oops, I see now. You've got two different '69 BBG AMXs. And a '70 BBB! Very nice!
Well shoot, I guess I'm back to knowing of just the one 500 4-speed.
I'll check the numbers in my VIN tomorrow. Be interesting to see how close they are.

[dpc502]

HI,
Serial # on 500 Special is 283769. It is original [except for some wear items; like seat covers ,carpet & dist.]rust free but high milage. From Orange,Calif. Not as nice as the one Bama is looking at but easily restored. Will take all 3 to AMO show in Atlanta in July [Very close to home.]
dpc502

[Big Bad AMX]

Mine is 289588. Looks like 5819 cars were in-between. I had to restore mine, interior, exterior, engine and trans rebuild. No rust. It's not 100% original but close enough for what I need and want. It's won awards at the three CACI / AMCWC Nationals its been to and at some local shows. I do drive it, 1,000-2,000 miles a year. If it was too perfect it'd never come out of the garage.
Good luck to you at the AMO show in Atlanta.

[dpc502]

Hi,
I would have thought that all 500 Special's would have been built togeather; Guess I would have been wrong. Like I said previously I'm no expert. The BBG 4sp.'s # is 330680, where would that put it?
Buy the way , do you know anyone who does good resto. on rim-blow steering wheels?
Thanks,
dpc502

[Big Bad AMX]

Actually, since they were a dealer zone promotion they weren't 'built' as 500 Specials at AMC. They would've come down the line like a regular production AMX. The S/S AMXs were consecutive serial numbers, maybe you're thinking of those.
Sorry, but I can't help you with a Rim-blow wheel restoration recommendation. I'd like to find somebody who can do the '69 woodgrain steering wheels. From what I hear the woodgrain rim is pretty difficult to restore.

Anybody out there know of a really good steering wheel restoration that can do the '70 Rim Blows or the woodgrain '69s?

[JB in Bama]

Interesting exchange!

Did you guys expect the value to bump so quickly?
Do you expect it to go up more?

I'm going to run up and look at the one for sale on monday if its still
there and see first hand. Any other tips?

[dpc502]

Hi JB,
Yes I expected the value to go up. These cars have been very undervalued their entire existance; however that wasn't my reason for buying. I just happen to be nuts about AMX's. The one you are looking at is a very nice . Understand it is not a #'s matching car, but the changes that were made improved performance [ but not ness. value ] Some of the non orig. parts are as follows: motor , trans.,radio,a/c compressor,wheels/tires,lots of chrome ,spoiler,arm rest, ect:
Is the car worth the price? Only you can answer that question. I can say that if I didn't already have one [and/or my wife wouln't kill me] I would be lusting badly.
Good luck,
dpc502